First one from the series of Dohas that you will see on this page…
NIJ KAR KRIYAA RAHIM KAHI SIDHI BHAAVI KE HAATH
PAANSA APNE HAATH MEIN, DAAON NA APNE HAATH
(It is in our power to do the KARMA, but we do not have any control over its success, like in the game of backgammon, we only have control over the dices but not the bet)
And this is Aro, Me and Anmol ( left to right) @ Sahastradhara.. Again.. Narang took this foto… 
I like someone…. call it a crush… she is pretty… she is intelligent.. AND she is leaving delhi very soon… i guess another week or so…
Not sure if she should know about it or not.. does it make sense…. still thinking…
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Thanks to Neha Issar, one of the very two email friends I have.. i came across a completely different class of the Indian Women.. something that i always knew was around.. but was never fortunate enough to be a friend of one or even know one of those.. but Neha… she literally opened my eyes and introduced me to a new world ( atleast for me) and I can never thank her enough for this….
What follows is a very long email which she wrote.. but every word is worth reading and makes a lot of sense… no point wasting this in my mail box.. its real worth would be when whoever reads this blog reads thru that email… Thanks Neha.. and i am sorry again…
Hi Prashant,
let me start with the first thing that is on my mind right now…ur
discussion or argument or whatever regarding the maturity issue.. While I do agree with you on some points i was taken aback by you thinking
and stating…”if the gals are more mature then why are they not talking
about career and slogging to reach somewhere.. ” who told u they are not
talking about careers???? I am surprised in this age you are still able to
make this statement..and I was thinking why is it difficult for my old
relatives and aged aunties and uncles to digest that at 23 i am not thinking
of marriage but ready to commit about 5 years for my PhD!!!!!! I had no idea
people my age also have this notion that an Indian girl does not spend a
pinch of time and effort thinking and worrying about her future in terms of
career!!!!.And believe you me I can not be called and exception because I
know a dozen more girls who are even more ambitious than I am and they are
like good looking girls!!(just to rule out a possible theory that brainy
girls may not have much beauty and so they have to think of careeer coz
they are conventional!!)..See about maturity ..I don kno what can be termed
as a “mature” thought?? It is a relative term I think …maturity comes with
circumstances and not age…for e.g the eldest child generally is more
mature,responsible…a child who has lost his father when young grows up to
be more responsible and mature earlier in life …so on and so forth..there
are many such examples that I cite..but then this is also a universally
acknowledged fact that women..girls in general are more mature…coz they
are meant to be so u see…even a male ur age if ever decides to settle down
would essentially look for this quality ..would want the girl to be mature
enough to.. or, shall I say it in your words…” hoping that the girl
understands that job would take priority for sometime…” at the same time
it is ironic that the same indian metropolitan male will not understand when
maybe the woman has to spend time on kids..household..inlaws…other
chores..and the romance fizzles out ..so your average metropolitan male
looks for a mature woman but is not completely sure whether he would be able
to demonstrate the same level of maturity..so maybe thats why women consider
themselves to be more mature than men..afterall they were meant to be so as
i said..to be the wives..who cook..clean..wash….keep inlaws happy..keep
husband happy ..as also the mother who bears and raises kids..worries about
girls marriage ..son’s job/career….etc .etc.. it was so convinient for you
to state or rather assume that women/girls don’t slog for a career knowing
somewhere ( i am sure) that u r so wrong..but even if u were right well did
u ever question why men are never even expected to maybe plan the days menu
for lunch ..dinner..decide what dal to cook…worry that children ..husband
will not have clean clothes to wear if she dos’nt wash the big heap of
laundry even on a Sunday..i mean there are so many things an average Indian
male does not even think of thinking that he may have to do if ther were no
mother ..sister..wife to do those !!but u know a women do earn bread at
times..she does file incometax returns….she does drive kids to school…she
does arrange for an electrician..plumber..i mean males today in some
households are not totally indispensable …this is not to say that women
are…they complement..u see but to put it in few words..women ..since they
have to assume multiple roles become exposed to numerous and varied social
/emotional and professional pressures and so they reach a level of maturity
faster..easily..just as if u are exposed to numerous strains of a disease
causing microorganism u develop immunity faster …or just as cockroaches have
been exposed to different poisonous chemicals (diff brands of pest control
sprays etc..) they are now not killed by them any longer ..immune to them…so
they have developed a more “mature” immune system!!!(hehehehe..i am sorry
this was quite weird an example I know)..so its just this factor to a major
extent… circumstances ..and thus in the socio economic set up that we live
in it is quite obvious that the women will be more mature at times….men
may be too..but..
Anyways we can discuss endlessly on this topic I think. quite thought
provoking..
yaa and regarding where I am. ..well I must say Prashant either u
underestimate ur country too much or the female population of your
country!! There are almost as many women today in India doing research and
science as men…and it is very much possible to hear of a girl in India who’s
done her MS in biotech and going to do PhD ..of course the avenues are not
as developed here yet ..so u may find more prospects abroad but it is just a
matter of time I think..I am very much in India..right now..did my post grad
here only…however am now going to start my research work in Paris..i will
leave for Germany in Feb..for a conference and workshop and subsequently for
Paris..its basically Malaria research..i don kno if u have heard of
EMBL..European Molecular Biology Lab..my PhD will be conferred form there
and I will be based in the Pasteur Institute Paris..this is the same where
Louis Pasteur worked..the person who developed vaccination .first against
rabies…and following whose principle of Pasteurization we all boil the
milk in our houses before refrigerating it!!!!
my reaction.. i do not underestimate my country or the women in my country at all.. but I acted like a toad in the well and did not realise there is more to the world and women then i knew… thanks again for helping me out..
Today has the been the day of some research.. a li’il bit of coding.. checking some formatting.. adding some content.. and making things look better.. no ! No ! not talking about work.. but about the blog that i am writing on.. went through a couple of blogs to gain knowledge and then added the same to mine..
Special thanks to
1) t.d. miller @ http://madtechspeaks.blogspot.com/ ( for inspiring me to add some more content to my blog)
2) Zilch @ http://bane3.rediffblogs.com/ ( for inspiring me to add the small cat at the right top of the screen).
Also she is someone who has been writing comments regularly on my blog, I have also visited her blog a number of times.. Boy you should look at the number of comments every post on her blog has.. very popular i guess !!! But I have not been able to find out who she is… Hey Zilch.. if you read this.. do lemme know 🙂
Will write more…
I got into a very interesting conversation with a friend of mine a few days back..
She was saying that men are not matured… infact lemme start from the beginning.. she told me that there is a friend of hers who is really really attracted to a guy 15 years elder to her.. and the question was why?The answer came as because Guys of that age are mature and experienced.. and all those things…she is about an year older to me.. and says that she gets into intelligent conversations with me only because she is very mature… also another thing that came up was that at one age say 25, a man would be less mature then a woman..
i want to debate this topic… i would like to understand what factor would age play in make someone mature.. am i more composed and mature by the virtue of my age.. or does that depend on things other then that too…
Lemme list the things that an average Indian metropolitan Male would be thinking of when he is 25:
1) Get stability in career and slog for the next 1-2 years before settling down.
2) might like to get married to his sweetheart in case going around with the dame.
3) Look at the feasibilty of getting a house or a car.
4) A relationship… maybe maybe not.. but hoping that it does not take a lot in terms of time.. hoping that the girl understands that job would take priority for sometime…
What would a girl at 25 be thinking of..
1) when would she get married?
2) An affair.. no way… its time to settle down..
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I am leaving this post incomplete.. i do not remember what all did we talk about.. but the discission was turning into an argument..
I would like to understand would it be fair to generalise that men are more or less mature at an age X then women.. and if you are older then someone else.. you are more mature as well !!!!
May be continued…..
First time after joining IBM i stayed back late till 2030 hrs to meet a deadline.. why did i have to do it.. because of my laid back attitude.. will not let that happen again.. need to gear up and show the world that I am as good as or even better then what I am looked at..
